Alleged Murderers Speak: What Can We Learn from Facebook/My Space?
Here are the words and photos posted by the four people arrested last week for allegedly killing two friends and then partying in a house with their corpses.
Who were these four lost souls who, according to Joliet police, took the lives of two friends Thursday and then partied and played as if it were all just a game?
Were they evil, drug-addled, mentally unbalanced? Did they wake up in a jail cell the next day swallowed by a river of regret and shame or were they smirking with the knowledge that they now knew the god-like power of consigning someone to death?
Did they realize that if they're convicted, they'll never again know the simple pleasure of going to a movie or taking a walk, never again see their family without a guard being in the same room, never know what it's like to get married or to see a child graduate or to hold a grandchild's hand?
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We will never know what was going through the minds of Alisa Massaro, 18, Bethany McKee, 18, Adam Landerman, 19, and Joshua Miner, 24, on Jan. 10, 2013, when Joliet police say they ended the lives of Eric Glover, 22, and Terrance Rankins, 22, and now face first-degree murder charges. According to reports, they would attempt to dismember their victims' bodies and then party and play video games until the cops showed up on the doorstep, shocked at what they would find at 1121 N. Hickory St.
The only insight we have are the little snippets of how the suspects saw themselves. The photos they chose to post and the words they left on Facebook, My Space and other Web sites.
The question is, did they leave us clues or are they -- scary to say -- a lot like many other 18-, 19- and 24-year-olds out there.
You be the judge.
Bethany McKee
Bethany's first Facebook page, set up in September 2007, is simple. She identifies herself as living in Shorewood and going to Joliet West High School. The three photos she posts of herself show a smiling, freckled face and her dark brown hair alternately hanging loose and braided and covered by a "N.Y." baseball cap.
By 2011, however, she is going by the name "Bethanii Kizziiee McKee (Babiiee Gqurl)" and her Facebook address is "missladiididi." She is the single mom to baby Cianna-Renee Chandan McKee, whose birth is proudly announced with a photo that takes the entire width of the page.
There is just that one photo until 2012, when there are more than a dozen photos of Cianna-Renee and of Bethany, showing off blue, purple and strawberry blond hair colors and tongue and lip piercings. One particularly disturbing shot has a red, blood-like splash across her face.
Here's how she describes herself: hey, tha names Bethanii[: im 18 , my birtday's July 13 , 94 . i hav a beautiful dauqhtr named Cianna-Renee I'm {TAKEN} am with tha most wonderful man in tha world . i dont hav frends i hav family but very little . i have fuqkd up alot in my past but i reqret any of it because it made me who i am today . favorite color is purple , fav food is hot winqs . i love to play volleyball . i love make up , tattoos && peircinqs . i am a christian , i do beleve in God . i dont hate but do dislike alot . im not perfect but do try my best(: ppl say im a {b.i.t.c.h.} but i just speak my mind♥ i do me && dont care what ppl think(: if yhur a quy && like me yhu qit one chance && thats is when yhu fuqk up yhur outa here dont tke shxt from noone ! 'im selfish , impatient && a little insecure , i make mistakes , im out of control && at times hard to handle , but if yhu cant handle me at my worst , yhu sure as hell dont deserv me at my best !' 'tha shxt yhu hear bt me miqht b tru but then aqen , it could b as fake as tha bitch who told yhu' 'Unles yhuv livd my life dont judqe me bkuz yhu dont kno , nevr hav && nevr will kno evry little detail abt me' 'ima slut bkuz ill wear shorts && a tanktop ima bitch bkuz i dont let yhu push me around ima liar bkuz i wont tell yhu evrythinq ima stoopid bekuz sometimes im ronq ima uqly bkuz my face isnt perfect ima whore bkuz i like quys ima losr bkuz im not friends with yhur qroup im weird bkuz im not like yhu im controlinq bkuz q qit mad sometimes im clinqy bkuz i like to b around people im qreedy bkuz i like to b satisfied im conceited bkuz im proud of who i am im unappreciative bkuz I dont praise yhu'
After her arrest, only one friend leaves a message: I LOVE YOU AND MISS YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH
Adam Landerman
Adam joined Facebook in October 2010, and doesn't post much for the first year or so. There are photos of him smoking a pipe, wearing sunglasses and standing in the woods.
He answers these questions:
What did/do you want to be when you grew/grow up? A F-----g Legend
If you was stranded on a desert island, what three things would you take? My house with everything inside including a satellite.
He's had his share of love life problems.
May 1, 2012: why the f*** is thir no more good girls around any more evey place i look its a bunch of sluts and i dnt need that WERE ARE ALL THE GOOD GIRLS ?
Oct. 23, 2012: officaly single agin true love is a bs childish lie
Aug. 4, 2012: the more i think bout things the more i realize how f***ed up this world is people are a**hole girls are heart breakers and players so why do we all try to pursue love why ill tell you for the feeling that 1 day we all can have true happyness but this is real life you only get that sh** in movies
Is he religious? He's seen wearing a cross in some photos and posts this in July 2012: JESUS CARES FOR EVERYONE! LIKE If You Agree And Write Only Jesus! http://www.christianet.com/bible/friendship.htm
On Jan. 7, 2013, he puts up a new photo of himself wearing a peacoat and two days later poses the question, "Monster or Redbull ? what will you choose ?"
Here's what he says about himself:
About Adam/Facebook: life sucks loves a loss hate is war and politics start it politics are sh** as are the people who argue over it . as for me i give up on life/love/hate/war/politics and all the bullsh* that goes with them !!! THE HELL WITH IT ALL !!!
well names adam iam single and love to have fun i hate drama so dont start it but i love to party
Favorite quote: life is a play ground have fun !!!
As of Jan. 14, 2013, he has 1,078 friends. A debate ensues between some of them over his guilt or innocence following his arrest on first-degree murder charges.
Alisa Massaro
Of the four, Alisa is the most prolific. She launched her first My Space page while in high school in 2008 and remained loyal to the site until finally switching over to Facebook in April 2012. On My Space, she calls herself "Alisa in Lotus Land."
Her love for Insane Clown Posse, a hip hop "horror" band, is perhaps the one thing that remains steadfast over her online years. She proudly identifies herself as a "juggalo" and a "juggalette," the terms given to Posse fans, and there are dozens of photos showing her in clown makeup, of the band's running figure carrying a hatchet and of references to marijuana.
In her most recent photos, she is slender, smiling and with long blond hair. She has clearly matured from the slightly overweight teen she was earlier in high school, during which time she shaved her head and dyed her hair dozens of different colors.
On her Facebook page, she announces she is "in a relationship" and says her favorite quote is: "The end only means a brand new start is ahead!"
Is she is a relationship with Joshua Miner, the man with whom she and two friends now face murder charges? It's hard to say. There are photos going back to 2009 that say "My Joshy" and "omg i love him," but nothing specific on her most recent Facebook site.
She wrote this on My Space in 2009: my names alisa massaro. i live in the state of illinois. i am a broken kid. i live everyday as if it were my last. i dont regret anything. im confused almost all of the time. i have been in love. and i currently am in love. i go to joliet central high. i graduate (hopefully) in 2012. my parents are divorced. my sister bri (17) has a 6 month old beautiful baby boy. hes the sexy little beast in the picture above with me. which i love oo soo much!!! my mom nita lives in colorado. and i have 3 amazing siblings. Nichole, Mason, and Emilee. i love all of them soo much. i cant even begin to explain. i love the color purple. i have no fashion sense. i dress how i want according to how i feel. i have anger issues. i have been diagnosed with bipolar disease. im down with tha muthaf***in clown. i been down for about 5 years. dont hate appreciate. i been to the hospital for suicide attempts, anger, depression, and cutting. i have seen more than most. im not bragging either. as someone told me ive lived the life of a grown woman. a f***ed up woman but a woman. anyways.
Joshua Miner
Of the four, he is the oldest and the only one who doesn't post much about himself. Other than what Alisa Masarro posts about him, this is one of the only online references to him other than he graduated from Joliet Central High School in 2006.
From Zoom Atlas social map:
josh miner · 601 W Jefferson Street, Joliet, IL I lived here from 1988 to 2010. WHOOP WHOOP,,, WAZZZ UPPP ,,repine,J-town ,, some call me,,,PORK,,E-clips,, now im Known as CRAZZY-NUTTZZ THE VAMP JUGGALO,,,,, MMFWCL;;you all STAY TRUE keep it real ;; HIT ME UP;;
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GlockG22Shoots40s
8:25 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
Sounds like a bunch of wanna be wiggers to me... and Befumy's got da baby ta prove it...
Janel Jones
9:15 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
I feel they should get the maximum sentencing, when they get settled in where they are going to be sent to, they will get served anyway! They may even get torchered like they torcherrd Eric&Terrence!! No pitty here for them! They all were knowledgable to what was going on!
Sonja Guedea Walter
9:58 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
its sad when only articles about the accused are posted and the victims are forgotten about
Denise Williams
11:33 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
Sonja, the victims are just that, victims. I don't want to see their lives picked apart and put on public display. I want their families left alone to grieve, in private.
This is a far cry, and a positive step, for this society. Too often the tendency has been to look at the lives of the victims to see what decisions they made that led them to the place and time in which they became victims. This is always wrong and insensitive and worse, attaches to the victims some sort of culpability in their own deaths.
The victims are not forgotten. Rather, they are being quietly respected.
joe1
10:06 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
These are a bunch of long time troubled kids who had a disregard for human life because they didn't respect their own life to begin with.
NotKeepingUpWithTheJones'
11:03 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
To Jack LaLane: Being obsessed with the Insane Clown Posse doesn't make you a murderer. I for years in high school fell in with their music and ran with juggalos. Besides a few of my buddies back then getting picked up on minor marijuana charges none of us ever talked or dreamed of doing something heinous like this. Now I'm a law abiding tax paying member of society doing just fine for myself. I know there are many pictures of us with face painting on before a concert or halloween but that means nothing.
Juggalette Jazzy
11:55 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
I agree i'm 30 years and i have been a Juggalette since i was 14 and i have never done anything or even thought about doing something like this!!! Juggalos and Juggalettes are family not murders or a gang i abide by the laws i'm just different and so is the rest of my wicked clown family and were proud to be who we are!!!!!
Treeman
11:14 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
Notkeepingupwiththejones, I totally agree with you. Music doesn't make you kill someone. People kill people. I knew two of the murders and one pretty well. Well, I thought I did. At the end of the day, they made this choice. They killed them. Not ICP, or anything else.
lala
12:30 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
As a parent, I agree. Music and video games do not make a killer. Absentee parents and absent support systems do. These animals did not just wake up one day and just decide to do this. It was planned out. From what I understand, they enticed the victims to the house. Who's house was it anyway? The red flags have been up for quite some time. Where were the parents of these animals all these years? Parents KNOW what their children are like. Why were the parents not monitoring the MySpace and Facebook accounts?
Brittany
12:42 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
No excuse! Death penalty needs to be brought back. Don't blame music, television, ect.. These were not small children, any one of them could have stopped and said this is wrong. I don't care how twisted their past were, everyone has tough lives. This was just an act of pure ignorance, disgust, and inhumanity! They shouldn't be rewarded with their lives. They lost that when they took innocent lives. I'm seriously disgusted with this.
ButterflyGirl
1:14 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Im not blaming Adam's mom, but as a Joliet cop, how do you now know ur son is a douchebag?
ButterflyGirl
1:15 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
*not
Bentley's mom
4:23 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Seriously, all the resources, training, and knowledge in the world and it seems a blind-eye was turned.
Colt45
9:30 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I grew up in Chicago back in the 70's and hung around of Chicago Cops kids, They were the worst ones.....But that was than and this is now. Society has changed, some for the good and alot for the bad, what these animals did was HORRIBLE, and They will be punished. Since I have moved to Joliet, I hve never in my life seen so many disfuctional families. I have one of my daughters friends living with my family, WHY? because her mother is a drunk and dosent want to be bothered with her, and her fathers girlfriend means more to him than his daughter. She has lived with us for a year now, what is wrong with parents today? Makes me sick...Your children should be your legecy. It's called Selfish. dont have them if you wont take care of them.
John Tips
1:26 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Bring back the Death Penalty - actually I all for a tall tree, a new rope and a Saturday public hanging! Have a couple of these - and see how much more respect people will have for the law! Six lives ruined! Shameful!
blue
8:27 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Man that's what I'm saying. The rope would be a way of supporting the go green movement. People know that if they are sent away for life they'll be able to learn to cope with living in jail.
Pissed off bytch!
2:00 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Black people about to start a riot ...white prior better watch out we don't just on the east side no more ...bang bang........they big to get merked in prison!
Wow
2:31 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Nice spelling.
Clutche
5:31 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Racist moron
rabidatheist
8:25 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
I'm almost willing to bet Pissed off bytch is NOT black. It's probably Clutche playing Poe.
GlockG22Shoots40s
10:26 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Yo... Blackies doan be duh only wuns habin sh!t goes bang bang... ya bess be carefu whatcha axin fo...
But seriously, All these idiots will be somebody's b!tch in prison... they'll certainly get what's comin to 'em...
andrew
7:02 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
i dont think it has anything to do with race,besides bllacks aint got the webos to riot in j town
Colt45
7:16 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
How were YOU raised? Riot? you are a joke. Why not wait till all the toxicology reports come back, and all the evidence is in before YOU judge. One of the suspects has a daughter and the baby-daddy is black....So this was NOT a racist thing. It's more like this.....hey want to come over to my crib, we chill and gets high.
blue
8:39 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
If this is a threat against white people on the street you better be fuckin careful man. You don't understand that those who committed the crime were arrested? I am concerned for my own safety, as well as the safety of every other white person because of everybody focusing on the race issue. If you're gonna try to get us you better make sure you shoot cuz if you run up on me I'll gut your fucking ass. The people involved are already taken care of, and yeah, I'm sure they'll get taken care of in prison. If you were not talking about trying to kill us on the street if you see us on the east side then please disregard my response, I cannot really understand what you are saying. I live on the east side, so if you try to get me, like I said, you better just shoot from a distance and hope you hit me cuz I'll get you... real dirty. I am not like them, but I'll damn sure defend myself though.
CarefulWhatYouAskFor
6:44 am on Monday, January 21, 2013
The problem is, while you darkies are slanging crack, destroying the English language and f*cking up everything you touch, we are either working, tending to our families, or doing other things like going to the gun range with our sons and daughters, practicing, and teaching them how to properly shoot.
So, you can "bang bang" all you want, you just better be doing it from behind something that covers everything except for the barrel. If you f*ckers want to turn this into a race thing, and incite a race war, over a few stupid murderers, the one thing you wont want to be after it kicks off, is black.
You're better off just staying low key, and doing what it is you people do. F*cker
Wow
2:33 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Many thoughts and Prayers to the families.
Jessica Hart
9:19 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Sorry Sorensen, but you're just about the worst social media stalker ever...first off, the three probably have posts and photos blocked from non-friends - that's why you only see a few. Second, the guy who loves and misses McKee is the father of her child, not just a friend. Go to his page and see all the photos. Third, you don't even mention the fact that Landerman is a creeper. If you look at comments on photos he's posted, you can see him arguing with and refusing to pay money he owed to a girl he slept with and lied to. And fourth, Massaro was listed as dating neither Landerman nor Miner. The current boyfriend posted in one of her recent photos about how sorry he is that he didn't look out for her enough. And then friends proceeded to argue with each other about how Massaro is a "hoe" and slept around and could never get over her ex, Miner. Also, she's friends on Facebook with a female relative of Miner's, who has a photo of herself with a guy who looks a LOT like one of the victims. So maybe that's a motive?
https://www.facebook.com/landerman.adam
https://www.facebook.com/missladiididi
https://www.facebook.com/alisa.massaro
This is what I'm doing to avoid doing my homework, haha!
GlockG22Shoots40s
9:46 am on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
I would certainly bet there is more to it than a random, "let's rob and kill these dudes"... we don't know 1/2 the story behind why it happened.
alovingmother
7:31 am on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
@Pissed off bytch ....you really need to get in tune, I'm a black mother of four...you need to re read what you post and delete it...its dumb and unlady like
Colt45
9:19 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
@alovingmother.....Kudos to you, girls nowadays, do not know how to be ladies.
andrew
7:08 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
i dont think its about race at all.to the brothers it was about makin some money ,and to the sick Os it was about gettin their dope,they all came out on the wrong end,i mean look at the 2 brothers and look at the 4 whities,do you think they really had anything in common sxcept for something each group wanted.besides i dont think the brothers have the webos to riot in J TOWN anyways
Jessica Hart
7:31 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
The killers may be white and victims black, but the one girl has a black baby and she's still close to the dad. And according to other articles, all 6 knew each other and had hung out in the past. I don't think this was meant to be a racial killing at all! It's sad that THAT'S still the first thing some people jump to! :-/
ashlee hays
10:20 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
AGREED!
Joel Craig
10:19 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Karen,
Thanks for all of your reporting and background on this story. We're learning a lot more about this tragedy and those involved from Patch than we are from "traditional" media. Keep up the good work!
Tracy Noexpirationdate Sandifer
1:13 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Glock why don't you identify yourself? They were just wanna be niggers and the next comment to the blackies...everyone knows that you're the poor white trashy type lol we know you people will try to find a way to blame the victims because your own kind is do lacking and completely fucked up? No they were not friends with these demonic no moral having bitches, they had only recently met. And to the person writing this story, you didn't notice when Adam Landerman was standing in the woods that it looked like someone was hanging from or tied to the tree? You people need to wake up and realize that whatever your racist views are they are not supported where it matters, Justice will be served!
Matthew Benson
8:57 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
It dont matter what color they were the victims were people like u and I, people that wanted to live. Its sad that some of you cant move past the color of thier skin i hope u can all join us in 2013 where all men are created equal
Lysa Heaton
8:50 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I thought your article was thought provoking and extremely well written. It's a shame the same can not be said for most of the people who have posted comments! The irony is, that many of them come across as complete nutcases themselves......kind of proving the point you were trying to make. What causes such horrific acts to occur? Is it nature, or nurture.....or do we have no way of telling?!
John Roberts
9:17 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Holy rollers kids killing,murders kids doing great,drug addict parents kids not doing drugs...killing is in human nature...we are the only species that kills for fun,profit,personal gain,...even wild dogs,animals kill for jealousy...but not for a name,fame,or just to be some sicko....all of say "I would never do anything like that" but would kill in self defense...no matter what we label it self defense,murder or justice ...killing is killing...would most of us commit something like this no I would hope not but in nature in history and present time and future we will always have people who kill,rape,mutilate,steal,kidnapp,...we as humans are kind,warm hearted,laughable,smart...sadistic,sick,disgusting beings...if you ignore it..that's what makes victims...not saying be scared to live ..you should never be afraid to live as you are afraid to die..but be aware..weather for personal gain,or just to see what it feels like to take a humans life people will always be sick disturbing people..we are a parasite to this earth,..we destroy the earth ignoring what is destroying it while we are too busy getting our personal gain weather it be our jobs,that business deal,or the headline in the news...peace and love does not sell,make the news,or make money..crime and sickness..well now there are 2 things that will always be around to make money from...because people will always be sick...and commit crimes.
John Roberts
9:27 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Watch some of the prison shows lockup or lockdown..and listen to how the people commited the crimes not just what they did but how and most were very simple climbed through a window,came up on a lady in a parking behind her,walked in rough the front door, kind of stuff.and listen to how when one of them describes taking a life..like they got a joy out of it and the only thing they describe is the look in the eyes of the victim as they took their life...now when you watch the facial expressions they hardly ever look up,they hardly make a smile...they to me make the face and the distant stare they did when they were killing the person...staring to the ground,wi a dazed look,and a frantic look on their face....they are remembering what it was like taking a life...after the finish then they look up and smile at the camera...yes we have sadistic people like this living in every neighborhood...it's time to start paying attention..no tattoos,no actions,or just a trouble child crap can tell you,..there are kids who had it all that killed...most of the time if people listen to what happened unless it was per meditated...it was mostly split second decision to kill...a man who is 18 and kills is no more dangerous than a guy who waited till he was 75 to kill..only age difference...all of our generations from old to young kill...from7 yr old kids to 80 yr olds..people kill it is in human nature a sick nature but it is reality..
Reggie Mc
7:29 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
As a family member of one of the victims it is what it is. We've lost a much loved family member nobody deserves to die like Terrance and Eric did. Many people had it rough in life it doesn't excuse acting like "sociopathic psychos.....we are hurting. RMc
Renee herberg
8:32 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Your family is in my prayers they will get what they deserve god is not on their side no matter what they think or what people tell them that is one of the commandments and no one is better than god RIP
ashlee hays
10:13 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
this is not a racist act.bethany has a half black baby and black in her blood,not to mention alot of her friends are black.
when this is all said and done the only ones to judge are the court and god.All others will just be words.
ashlee hays
10:14 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
bethany is my cousin and even though what happened is wrong i will stand by her and the rest of my family.
Renee herberg
8:30 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Thats what family should do but what happened is tragic and she will be held responsible just like the other 3 its sad that this is how her life will turn out
protecting the future of my kids
12:18 pm on Monday, January 21, 2013
There comes a time in life when you need to turn your back and walk away.
yasmine
4:03 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
May the two young men rest in eternal peace.
Amen
Renee herberg
8:29 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Race has nothing to do with this just a bunch of children trying to fit in and if they dont get the death penalty jail will get to them
Special Rex
9:56 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013
This is my theory based off of what's been stated. All 4 of them them were at a low stage in their lives. Break ups, emotional problems, broken homes, drugs and or mental illness. This Joshua Miner guy was very much so troubled child porn, domestic abuse, robbery, death threat.
The former girlfriend of Joshua Miner, one of the four suspects in a double-murder in Joliet, is revealing a disturbing history.
Ivon "Dorian" Walsh said she dated Joshua Miner for over four years. During that time, she said he was a sadistic control freak who confined her to a room in his mother's home, where he starved her and abused her in other ways.
"I had a chain on my ankle, I would have bells attached to it, I had to urinate and use the bathroom in a garbage can," Walsh says.
In 2009, Walsh sought a protective order after she said Miner threatened her and her baby daughter. She was denied that order.
"He said he was gonna like cut my stomach open, with a butcher knife and said he was going to take all of my intestines out, how he was going to make a noose out of it and put it over her neck and hang her while I would be still alive watching her as I'm slowly dying watching my kid die."
Special Rex
9:59 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013
I really like this site. Its a good way to stay in tune
Special Rex
9:59 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013
continuing... I believe bettany was friends with one of the victims Terrence (correct me if wrong) and probably hung out from time to and the everyone esle was introduced and it continued. I believe Alisa May have gotten acquainted with Eric. This Enraged Josh considering a statement from Ex girl friend:
Police said robbery was the apparent motive. They have not said anything about race being a factor, but Walsh tells me Miner did not like black people.
"His sister dated a black guy," Walsh says. "He always told me how he just wanted to kill him, kill his sister, he would tell me how he wanted to kill his mom because she was also dating a black guy. I do believe it was a racial matter."
I dont believe Robbery was a motive at all. PEOPLE DON'T PLAN ROBBERIES AT THEIR OWN HOMES! I believe josh had the girls to lure them over. Meanwhile josh and adam either planned to beat up or kill them...PERIOD! Things got out hand, so they think of a way to conceal the bodies. They didnt think beth would Call the cops and so it caught them off gaurd which explains why they were so shocked when they were caught.
Special Rex
10:29 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013
And if it was "Robbery" how come there isn't any news yet on how much dope or money they took?
protecting the future of my kids
2:36 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
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Caitlin Bonnan
9:45 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013
I myself am a juggalette, and I could never even think of doing something like this. Not all of us are bad, yet we're lab led as a gang by the FBI. I'm a juggalette, but I work two jobs, I graduated high school and cosmetology school, I'm a mom, I'm engaged (and yes he's a Juggalo), I don't do drugs, and I couldn't harm a fly. We aren't all bad! Just a few idiots that give us a bad name.
Alexandra
5:17 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
I agree with Sonja Walters. The reason why people do heinous crimes like this is because our society makes it so that criminals are remembered forever and the victims are forgotten. In their minds infamy is better than being forgotten.
Special Rex
6:50 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Alot of you need to go back and do your research. It Is was known that josh hated other Races. And it was known that the two victims dated women of other races. So how could Race NOT have played a role in this? Stop Trying to cover up the obvious! There was NO robbery, People are not going to lure you to Their Homes TO ROB YOU!
ashleelynn hays
5:02 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
nothing to do with race!!!!!!!!
Hartz
10:25 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
You have said this a few times, and as her cousin you may have a different insight. There are a few rumors that seem to have some validity. It may not have had anything to do with race in her eyes, but it seems that one of the other guys had a huge problem with anyone who wasn't white.
I realize there is more information that may not have been released, but if you know anything to the contrary; please enlighten us.
Nikki3838
1:45 am on Monday, January 28, 2013
Let me tell u bitches something they killed my son u think I give a fuck about her haveing a mix baby or new black pepole fuck her fuck u my son is gone what ur bitch ass got to say about that no what's going on befor u open ur mouth fuck head I hope they get life never see the light of day
just wondering
4:54 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013
I am truly sorry for your loss. I live in Joliet and it seems like everyone I know had some kind of connection with Both Terrance and Eric. My heart goes out to both families. I hopes that it gives some comfort knowing that myself, a stranger to you, have herd nothing but how both of them were kind and good people, with good manners. I am a mother of 3, and could never imagin the pain that your families are going through! It makes no sense, if about race or not, it should have NEVER HAPPEN!
Angryblackman
12:27 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
@careful wat you ask for white people smoke more crack than the blacks nd u bitches ain't shit but red necks. We ain't bring that shit here the white man put in our communities to destroy us. My opinion personally is this was racially motivated. Yes I am black well educated so just because you take your kids to the gun range or whatever you do doesn't make you inferior or exempt from being touched. Those lil fucks deserve to die
Jack LaLane
11:59 am on Friday, February 1, 2013
You must have been educated in the Joliet school system- judging from your spelling, punctuation, and writing skills. Oh, and that would be SUPerior, not "inferior".
Wrestleman
11:51 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
Angryblackman shut the fuck up u racist bitch. Your going way off topic! Were all brothers and sisters and don't matter wat color we are. Get your facts straight Terrance was friends with all those people that killed him. This wasn't about race! It sounds like you smoke a lot of crack. To my bro Eric Glover you were an awesome wrestling teamate and a great friend love you, RIP, and you'll never be forgotten! My prayers go out to you and your family!
angie
1:20 pm on Thursday, January 31, 2013
Why does it always got to b blamed on race damm can't u c uts demonic, satan used these 4 ! Blame goes to him and a word of advice all these parents raising there kids without leading them to Jesus and letting them b freethinkers without spiritual guidance let this b an example of how satan will take control! Im sure someone will poat that the one girl says in her facebook she believes in God well ill say it now Even satan and all the denons believe and shudder so....... please parents don't just leave your children to figure it all out themselves cuz the best and most important thing u can give them is a real guidance to Christ they wont b perfect but they wont b indwelled by demons if thpe holy spirit is in them! My prayers are for all the families of the victims and the murderers because every parent is in turmoil ! I pray God gives all of u a peace and comfort that surpasses all understanding! And uall arguing about race please grow up and rid yourself of such ignorance!
Jack LaLane
11:59 am on Friday, February 1, 2013
Go back to school, honey.
angie
12:03 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
Crack and drugs and crime doesn't have a color people! !!!!!
miss
6:02 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
ICP N TWIZTED SHOULD ALL BE BANNED THE MUSIC IS HORRIBLE!!! LISTEN TO IT WHY DO YOU THINK THEY DID THIS BECAUSE THE MUSIC TALKS IT OF COURSE.. THEY ARE SICK KIDS FOR THIS!!!