Recently Wilding Pointe had a situation where police were involved and many neighbors came forward and rallied together. They continue to do so to protect our community Before you make a generalization about our whole subdivision maybe you should take that into account.

Plainfield PD did a great job by apprehending this dangerous individual. The officers and detectives involved should be commended. And you too Aron!

I'm sure Tim will be here at some point but no one cares what he thinks.

Now if we could only get a new Plainfield Township Highway Commissioner this April to be as effective as the police department. Tim never comments on anything in Plainfield Township since he lives in Kendall County. Right Tim?

Plainfield PD served as the note takers while the professionals were called in to do the job. What was not mentioned here, for some reason, is that it was the Joliet PD that came in to help solve this, for what really should be obvious reasons by now.
http://heraldnews.suntimes.com/16365086-417/robber-tries-to-steal-car-kidnap-woman-in-plainfield.html

This crime and this guys house are within the boundaries of Plainfield, but it took the Joliet Police department coming into Plainfield to get the job done.
http://heraldnews.suntimes.com/16365086-417/robber-tries-to-steal-car-kidnap-woman-in-plainfield.html

You must think this is a joke by the way you are tossing out personal attacks at me. This is a serious concern to the ongoing ability of this department, that it can not even handle crimes in its own borders without help from actual professionals. It is good to see they are starting to understand they are seriously under prepared and are seeking help, but it is horrible that it even was allowed to get to this point by the current leadership.

Im not saying tim is right or qrong i really sont live there but my family does real close to this man idk qhy i keep calling him kid and from my families stories that the guy constantly is taken away by the cops at his house im concerned as to why they keep letting him loose. We have seen what he's capable of what are we waiting for? A death? I hope not. Im wondering if this erin johnson has a relative in the inside because they easily let him off easy usually. Again im working towards the main goal keeping the streets safe for kids tp play on. The street he lives on there are dozens of children playing all the time say he snaps one day and that has to be our "wake up" call. It would be a tragedy. We avoid it by being proactive not reactive. As to the police well no complaints really it was a good tactic to use a resting dog and a production dog to make the search faster i just hope they keep him behind bars for long or somehow make him stay away from innocent people. Please update us on the hearing and result plainfield patch

@Tim, Perhaps you could provide evidence to support that the Plainfield Police Department served only as "notetakers" as you claim. And perhaps you forgot to mention the Joliet K9 bit one of the police officers. Perhaps you forgot there was a K9 from Plainfield that helped track the suspect.

Not many jurisdictions have all the resources necessary to handle such a violent crime. It's the relationship and collaboration between departments that created the successful police leadership to apprehend this individual. It was a good decision to ask for help to seek out this suspect rather than attempt to solve a violent crime with probably only four cops at the time of the night.

Kendall County has enough problems where you live right Tim? I think your focus is blurred after all your battling with Todd Milliron over Toftoy and Dabney. Your constant attacks on the Plainfield Police Department are childish and uncalled for.

Very true i don't see why using other resources is a big deal? If it weren't for out sourcing many house fires would turn into wide spread first fires. I say if you can use other resources be smart and use them wisely and that's is what was done and the man was caught in two hours which i thought was great before done people even started their day. Lets all work together for the same goal in the end we all want a safe neighborhood

Actually, many local jurisdications have the resources to handle this type of crime . However, it appears we are sadly lacking in resources in Plainfield. It is great to call in other towns to assist when we need them. But those towns have problems too, and if we don;t have what we need here how can we reciprocate when they call us? What happens when they have a priority matter and can't help? These questions are very problematic.

Oh no you dinnnnt....Timmy!, is that supposed to be how a mother from the 'hood would speak? because the accused is a young man of color? He's a threat to the safety of women and the community we leave in. period. his race has nothing to do with that.

The next person who believes that they can't defend themselves in a situation like this may not be around to tell of it. My wife would not hesitate, and it’s unfortunate that she would go through some trouble because of it. However it wouldn't be as bad as planning her funeral. That's just the way we feel about it!

December 5th, a Wednesday. I can take that day off, or part of it. Anyone else who is talking the talk and can walk the walk (I know the economy is bad & some may have to work every minute they can) should show up for this hearing. If this guy is who you say he is, the whole community needs to show up & let the judge know he is not welcome here. I'll look on the Will Co. website, but let us know eactly where we need to be for this court date. It takes a village!

The only thing the passing of a "right to carry law" will lead to in situations like this is a lot more dead bodies to clean up, and not necessarily the bodies of criminals. Criminals are criminals because they prey on UNSUSPECTING, vulnerable victims, who even if armed, may not be physically or emotionally prepared to blow someone away, even if they're being attacked. If a woman (or any victim) is being attacked and manages to get access to her weapon but isn't prepared to use it, guess whose going to have the upper hand. It's not like taking self defense classes and hoping that what you learned kicks in when the moment comes.......if that gun gets into the attackers hands, that criminal is going to know very well how to use it and WILL NOT hesitate.

Interesting. Accounts of abduction attempts elsewhere have shown firearms to be exceedingly effective. Personally, I'd prefer they be picking up the bodies of violent criminals than their innocent female victims.

All of you guys are ignorant who are you guys to judge their family?! Every family is dysfunctional in their own way. Get a life you prejudice ass ignorant people. If you're such a "concerned" father , you'd be worrying about your own kids or kid, not on here judging someone else. I'm sure you've made terrible mistakes in your life too. Probably not as bad, or maybe even worst, who knows? But if you're a Christian or believe in god you should know not to judge someone that way. He obviously is going through something in his life. Don't be an asshole. This is affecting their whole family not just him.

Erin is lucky, very lucky he did not kill this woman if nothing else she could have suffered a heart attack. Or, Erin could have been shot and killed, rumor has it the neighbor was armed when he cam to help.

This is a horrific crime that has allegedly been committed and if this young man is found guilty then he should pay a serious consequence, however, the issue is much deeper than feeling sorry for victims or feeling defending criminals. I work in one of the largest maximum security department of corrections in the state and there is one thing that every day folks don't seem to get: a criminal isn't born overnight. There is a long path leading to a tragedy like this and it started a long time ago. There are plenty of opinions regarding who should be blamed but until we, as a community and a society start to do what we can, both individually and collectively, to be a part of the solution, then not a single one of us has a right to cast stones. This matter will be resolved in the court by those whose job it is to condemn and judge the actions of others, but even if Mr. Johnson is sentenced to a long time in prison, that will have no impact on the thousands of young people out there, 15 year olds, 10 year olds, 5 years olds even, who are on the very same path.

So no one should cast stones (verbally) at a violent criminal who attempted to abduct a woman at knifepoint and carjack her? And of course, we don't know what the ultimate plan was (rape, homicide, whatever).

Give me a break. No one forced him to commit this crime.

Somehow you haven't noticed that almost every call that involved the Plainfield PD this summer, involved the gun wielding criminals being LONG GONE by the time the police bothered to show up. Not only being long gone, but being able to drive through the core of downtown, and completely out of the town boundaries, only for the Joliet PD to finally get the job done.... AGAIN.

This past history, is EXACTLY why another department was called in. The Plainfield Chief simply can not afford another bungled call and expect to keep his job. Take a step back, and realize that the chief KNEW it would take a more professional department to actually get the job done. That is a serious internal problem.

So no, I do not 'hate' the police. I hate incompetence, which has been on full display within this particular department for quite some time now, and it is coming back to bite not them, but the rest of the residents of town. I would MUCH rather have the level of professionalism displayed by the Joliet PD in place at the Plainfield PD, but that will never happen until there is a leadership change to someone that puts the residents needs above their personal pet projects.

Crime(Burglaries) skyrocketed by 38% during 2011 in Plainfield, and this chief was focused not on preventing an existing problem, but was busy making national headlines with his blundered attempt to put rifles in schools. 2012 is on track to become even worse for Plainfield, and it isn't even over yet.

Skyrocketing, huh Tim? How do you propose PPD prevent burglaries?

"Almost every call that involved PPD this summer, involved gun wielding criminals being long gone"?

You're joking right? Do you have the slightest idea how many calls PPD responded to this summer?

There may be a "serious internal problem", but it isn't with PPD.

Know what it says in the criminal justice books?..." Even if you know their not guilty if you arrest them anyways a major portion pleads guilty in court" also it states " if you can convince a person they are guilty even if they are not chances are they will plead guilty in court"......I have read this in these "Criminal Justice" books myself....I agree if this guy did it then to jail he goes with a sentence to suit the crime.....but criminal justice is teaching deceiving tactics...like take you to jail anyways and chances are you don't fight the charge on smaller things...

"John",
I'd be fascinated to learn more about these "criminal justice books".

Particularly since a police officer arresting someone that they know is innocent, is not only unethical and immoral, but illegal and contrary to the oath of office they take.

Look up Official Misconduct. It's a felony.

Ernie, the entire reason the Miranda warning is even there is because the Supreme Court of the United States forced it onto law enforcement as a response to these tactics(Miranda v. Arizona), and this is still a common tactic in police departments around the country.

Bar Associations across the entire country were organizing before this was passed to allow for a defense against these tactics, the resulting government franchised body was to become the basis for the creation of the 'Legal Services Corporation' which was eventually then created by the Nixon administration(ironic, isn't it)

You really need to get yourself some attorneys as friends, particularly defense attorneys, so you can ask them some of these questions. Your personal life experiences and knowledge are obviously inadequate to support the statements that you are making.

There was just a record setting settlement against the city of Chicago for these EXACT tactics, and it was often referred to in news reports as the 'blue wall of silence'. If it didn't happen anymore, the Legal Services Corporation would no longer exist.

Tim,
Wrong again. Miranda was to protect the 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination. Miranda had nothing to do with officers knowingly arresting innocent persons. READ the MIRANDA RIGHTS, Tim.

You are confusing "tactics" in obtaining confessions with knowingly false arrests. These are not the same thing. Knowingly making false arrests will get an officer fired, indicted and imprisoned.

"Blue wall of silence" is meaningless out of context. It may have nothing to do with a knowingly false arrest. It may have nothing to do with Miranda.

You are confusing and mixing concepts.

Someone with such great defense attorney friends should know that. But using these TACTICS may be great for smearing the police again.

And here's the guy who thinks a rifle locked in a safe somehow stops a school shooting. I'd be your friend Ernie but I think my friend Tim would be upset if that happened.

Further, guns should be banned not only in school safes but in the United States. Handguns are easily concealed, engineered for maximum lethality, relatively inexpensive, and easy to acquire. The United States leads the world in homicides, suicides, and overall gun violence. Guns are unsafe in anyones hand. We don't need anymore guns.

I'm not talking about the miranda rights Ernie, I'm talking about the ACTUAL case that prompted them to exist in the first place. Since you obviously do not know that that was but one of four cases consolidated for the court, here is some reading material for you to educate yourself with;

https://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/US/384/384.US.436.584.759-761.html
"This was the spirit in which we delineated, in meaningful language, the manner in which the constitutional rights of the individual could be enforced against overzealous police practices."

The 'overzealous practices' being referred to are when interrogations were conducted for the sole purpose of getting a confession, even in the face of absolutely no supporting evidence at all. When you read the case involved other than the pop-culture 'miranda' case, which was but a single case of four, you will have learned something new. I know that is a 200+ page report of the actual words of the Supreme Court, but try to keep an attention span long enough to read it a few times until you understand it.

Here are 12 Million more reasons;
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-06-06/news/chi-aldermen-settle-iraq-war-protest-lawsuits-for-12-million-20120606_1_protest-aldermen-police-conduct
900 knowingly wrongful arrests, all at once, by Chicago police. called 'idiotic' by the court.

You don't get to claim 'wrong', for well established history just because you are unaware of it.

Tim,
The discussion was on police intentionally arresting innocent people, if you would like to check the thread. Your points regarding police abuses apparently have nothing to do with the original discussion. (Point me to the spot in the Miranda decision that says the police knew Miranda was innocent and then arrested him anyway.)

Police making an arrest based on probable cause where the person is subsequently actually innocent (not simply acquitted), is obviously not the same as intentionally arresting an innocent person. One is a mistake, one is a crime.

Ron,
Good to know your irrational opposition to firearms. So we should not only disarm the 8,000,000 trained, licensed concealed firearms carriers nationwide, but also the military, police, FBI, everybody, since "guns are unsafe in anyones hand"? Handguns are for "maximum lethality"? Your ballistic ignorance is stunning.

Ernie, Is it possible to make comments with calling Tim and I names on here?

Consider what happened in Australia after a crazed gunman killed 35 people in Port Arthur, Tasmania, in 1996.

The Australian federal government persuaded all states and territories to implement tough new gun control laws. Under the National Firearms Agreement (NFA), firearms legislation was tightened throughout the country. National registration of guns was imposed and it became illegal to hold certain long guns that might be used in mass shootings.

The gun ban was backed up by a mandatory buy-back program that substantially reduced gun possession in Australia.

The effect was that both gun suicides and homicides (as well as total suicides and homicides) fell. Importantly, while there were 13 mass shootings in Australia during the period of 1979--96, there have been none in the sixteen years since.

Stricter gun policy laws need to be enacted here in the United States. The U.S. has a high gun murder rate, whereas a country like England with strict gun controls has almost no gun murders and a very low murder rate.The police in England do not even carry guns with the exception of their special teams. I'm sure they don't put rifles in a safe in their high schools either. Perhaps you should take some time to educate yourself on gun violence.

@ Ernie I have a relative that was studying to do the law enforcement training the advertise on tv.she Recieved the books and in these books this is what it stated..I will find out what the book title is again and post it for sure...oh it has some other things in it you'd be surprised to know this is how they are being trained..even parole officers...get this training

@ron..hey bud you should watch sons of guns...they took a piece of metal pipe,and some wood with 2 wires and a 9 v battery...know what they made?..a rocket launcher....a piece of pipe,a small piece of wood and a rubber band? Know what ya got?....a gun...in order to remove guns you would have to remove the knowledge that lead travels fast when backed by exploding black powder...remember the very first guns? Primitive everything after that was more for looks and speed....if you rounded up all the legal guns...there would only be homemade non registered in known amount,and never know who has them..is all you would end up with...people make guns..there not beamed in from space...and people will continue to make guns..no matter what.

John,
"Criminal Justice" texts used by television advertised training sources, are likely NOT associated in any way with official law enforcement training. Illinois police academys use no such texts. I'm certain it's possible to find a book that says what you have related. I'm equally certain that it would not be a part of a State, Federal or municipal sanctioned law enforcement training.

Wrong again, Ron. Since banning guns in Australia and England the rate of firearm crime has vastly INCREASED.

Since concealed carry has gone into effect in the US, now in 49 states, homicides and violent crimes have DECREASED. The FBI has no stake in this. Look at the FBI UCR numbers.

You know what works at stopping crazed gunmen? Armed, trained, licensed civilians. Why would you want to disarm women and the elderly and make them easy victims of violent predators?

Ron, people are judged on what they say. When you contradict all credible ballistics experts and your own previous posts with your opinions, you really cannot expect to be held in high regard.

The Second Amendment does not give citizens the right to keep and bear arms, but only allows for the state to keep a militia (National Guard). Individuals do not need guns for protection; it is the role of local and federal government to protect the people through law enforcement agencies and the military. Additional gun control laws are necessary to stop gun violence and limit the ability of criminals to obtain guns. More guns mean more violence.

@ Ron..ok well let's say someone came into your house right now..bam you hear the door..maybe you don't...look around...where exactly are the police? The military? Nowhere.its just you and the criminal....in your house,invading your freedom,your property...the guy comes at you..are the police there yet?..how are they going to know your being invaded....you going to ask the criminal to hold on while you call the police?...good luck bud...while this guy attacks you..the other guy that came with him gets your wallet,sees pictures of your kids,learns who your wife is..sees pictures of your kids school...you know gathering information on your family while robbing and beating you.....are the police,military there yet?....probably not but you might have the chance to call the cops,start and investigation,maybe catch the people who have all the information they need on you to blackmail you into keeping your mouth shut...and the police they will get to your case when they get a chance...military..chances are police are not contacting them either....label units how ever you want they are still people and the only way to maybe protect yourself is to have a police officer or military personnel live with you and be on guard 24/7 but even they a routine will most likely be followed and know what happens to routines..they get calculated and breached and used against the people with routines...the real reality of this world sucks but it is a reality....You would be left defenseless...